A conversation between Rhayne Vermette and Stoffel Debuysere about the surreal possibilities within the insipid, the improvisatory force of collective production and the cinematic implications of sound and music. 2 April 2026, Gent. In the context of Courtisane festival 2026 and the research project Echoes of Dissent (KASK & Conservatory / School of Arts Gent).